There is a common opinion that truth is born in the dispute.
And this phrase is attributed to Socrates, but at the same time it is said that Socrates "opposed the dialogue controversy." I was interested in this topic and I studied her. You can read below.
"Socrates found his way to comprehend the truth. He rejected the statement that truth is born in the dispute, and opposed the dispute of the dialogue. What is the basis of the dispute? Attempting to prove his right point. But the knowledge of a person is imperfect, and therefore the point is relative. You consider yourself smarter than your opponent, then your duty to help him get closer to truth. You have to get up on his position and together with him to go through this whole thorny path. Socrates took the conversations with simple people and discussed the problems that worry them. This allowed him Enrich the knowledge of your interlocutor and solve complex problems without antagonism and hatred. Dialogue, not a dispute, conversation with a man, and not with a crowd - that's what the secret of Socrates. He understood that in the crowd a man is stupid. I think it understands that Our politicians. Therefore, they like to speak in front of the large masses of people, since they clearly lack intelligence with a concrete person. "
I agree with this statement. Also bring the opinions of other people:
"This expression is true in the sense that when people discuss some kind of question, you can hear different points of view, as if considering the issue from different sides, and not only from our own way. It helps to make a more objective opinion, something to discard, and something To take note, although to conduct a certain analysis, you need to have a flexible and alive mind. If it is firmly standing at the position "I am right, and all who disagrees are wrong with me", it is unlikely to find a dispute (discussion) . "
"There is also a version that truth is not born in the dispute, since each of the arguments does not listen to the opponent, and preparing mentally that he will answer. And in general, the dispute is unlikely to give anything good.
"No, she is never born in dispute at all. Because the dispute is just for the competence of anyone, but not at all for the truth. And competence in the dispute is also the proof of its own right."
"No, not born) Speakers are not interested in the opinion of the other, they need to speak out. That is, this is a motivation. That is not the desire of the thesis, antithesis and synthesis as the final one, leads people mainly. And its statement. And this motivation will lead any topic to The same. And yes, I happened to convince anyone. Only I know that the general denominator in perseverance does not smell. This is a matter of personal power, charismaticness, sometimes some knowledge, sometimes some knowledge of some knowledge ... And what's when to come to a common denominator? Proof of his wrongness is that which takes people away from each other, and does not drive ... "
"I think that the one who starts the dispute is increasing, pretends that he intends to achieve truth and objectively argue for her with another, and instead, it makes a smugly bear dance with a growl or flows into rage. Then he loses the battle because not Comprehensies the essence of the struggle and fundamentally sin against the art of the dispute. "
"In the dispute, the truth is not born.
In the discussion - maybe.
But not necessarily. "
"Also adhere to the opinion that no truth is born in the dispute, but the aggression can easily."
Quotes and statements
Lesse from the dispute - the dispute is the most disadvantageous condition for belief. Opinions - like nails: the more bang on them, the stronger they are rushing.
/ Juvenal /
Truth is not born in the dispute - the truth is announced. Just the truth can only have such power. (Matthew.7: 29)
It is not necessary to argue. The dispute is the best tool to bury the wonderful lady alive - the truth.
The beginning of the dispute is likely, his food is stubbornness, the end is anger. - A. Oxerent
As soon as we felt anger during the dispute, we already argue not for the truth, but for themselves. - T. Karleil
If people argue for a long time, it proves that they are talking about, it is unclear for themselves. - Volter.
The more arguing about the subject, the more confused: the light of the truth is fading when they are very mashed. - P. Boast.
In the discussion of the wise men, the truth is born; In the dispute of fools, - the world collapses.
But the statements than the dispute could be useful, but obviously, judging by the deep content, they mean still a discussion and dialogue:
Truth is born in the dispute, but when passions are boiling, the truth evaporates.
Not only a victorious result is important in the dispute, but also the process of crystallization of his own thought.
In the dispute, it is important not only to prove its own, but also to enrich the thoughts of the opponent.
In the dispute wins not the right of right, and the one who knows how to argue.
The controversial truth is born in the dispute.
In the dispute often wins the audacity and eloquence, and not the truth.
Who has any views on disputes? And in general, where can this very truth be born?
It is not known why, but people are not only mistaken, but also to argue. The regulars of numerous forums and social networks by and large are engaged in the most commonly verbal battles: everyone defends their opinion, sometimes with foam at the mouth. In battles, precious time is spent and no less precious nerves, but the participants do not lose: because everyone knows that the truth is born in the dispute, for which it is not groaning. Nevertheless, there are certain subtleties that turn frank break into the controversy. Let's talk about the positive and negative sides of this concept as a dispute, and we define its role in the life of society.
Tale - Lie
This phrase is very loose - every person, probably, at least once in his life repeated it, putting a straight, ironic or even sarcastic meaning, because not every discussion boasts such a wonderful result. Most often, neither its subject, nor the composition of the participants implies such success: In disputes are born only when the conversation is subject, and the interlocutors are not only "in the topic", but also are well brought up to listen to the opinion
Perhaps the most impressive amount of born truths have disputes in the field of science. Each proposed theory or study is a kind of argument, during the exchange of which a new knowledge appears. Most likely, this was exactly what ancient mean, saying that the truth is born in the dispute.
Socrates, which is attributed to aphorism, hardly considered it so. The famous philosopher fairly believed that the dispute, in fact, nothing else, as an attempt to impose his opinion to the opponent, make him recognize his own right. But human knowledge is far from perfect. What truth can be born in the dispute of two representatives of the ancient world, one of which believes that the Earth rests on three whales, and the other is that on four turtles?
It is known that Socrates opposed the dispute - a dialogue, and put on him the corresponding hopes, recommending to talk to a person and not to contact the crowd.
What can I argue
If you think about, the subject of the discussion is of great importance. What it is more difficult and more specific, the more truth in approval that truth is born in the dispute: nuclear physics or molecular biology will not be discussed. To lead conversations on such topics, you need to have appropriate knowledge. And in order to master them, it is necessary to have a considerable mind, which, in fact, plays a decisive role in the process of birth of something worthwhile.
Unfortunately, the majority of disputes in which they have to participate or observe, are hardly particularly meaningful.
And what better to keep silent
Albert Einstein believed that the policy is a matter of much more complicated than in this light it is absolutely not clear why you wanted to discuss a little theory so few, and large international relations specialists - 99% of the country's adult population.
This is where the phrase "truth is born in disputes" sounds a real mockery. More fruitless and meaningless pastime and imagine it is impossible. Is there any more strange in the world than the fact that thousands of adult people spend their lives to convince thousands of others in their right, in advance knowing that it is absolutely impossible?
In addition to mutual insults and offensive, nothing in such disputes is born, and it cannot be born: after all, people are involved in them just incompetent, and absolutely not affecting the situation.
To answer a question positively, truth is born in the dispute, three things are important:
subject of dispute;
list of participants;
their competence.
Born in dispute
However, a civilized dispute may have another result, which is sometimes even better than truth, and his name is a compromise. There are areas of life in which the notorious truth does not exist at all, and if it is, "no one knows her." Everything that concerns love, marriage, child education periodically makes people cross in invisible blades - and completely in vain.
There are things in which individual features and preferences are a decisive factor. It is not necessary to search here, but the ability to negotiate is that this ability and distinguishes the thinking creatures from obsolete rams. It is a pity that not everyone is understandable.
Olympic principle
To assert that truth is born in disputes, it is unlikely that it is always fair, but at the same time sometimes to participate in a similar event "not only harmful, but also useful", as Satyrics say.
Even if the exchange of arguments and will not lead to a positive result, the need to argue his opinion will help bring thoughts in order to detect the shortcomings in their own logical constructions. In the end, even the conclusion about the senselessness of the dispute on this topic, too, may not be superfluous in the process of obtaining valuable life experience. As they say, it is possible to extract lessons from everything - the main thing is not to focus on the material already passed.
Thus, saying: "Truth is born in the dispute," the author got excited. Such a result should also be excluded, but with a fair amount of reservations.
Ethics above all
As in any other reasoning about the abnormalities of human communication, again, it is necessary to state the capital truths about the importance of mutual respect, the unacceptability of the transition to insults, the need to find the strength to appreciate and accept the opinion of another person, even if you do not share it yourself.
The rules of behavior of humanity did not invenate in vain. There are such areas in which the rule "truth is born in disputes" does not act and never will never work. Therefore, in a decent society and it is not accepted to discuss about politics, religion and football.
If you stick to the elementary rules, any conversation, even the hottest, will not make sure to regret it after when passions are silent and the opponents will take care of the loss. No wonder they say that at that very moment when the interlocutors feel angry with respect to each other, the dispute should end, and not the opposite.
Hot discussions on television, quarrels of spouses, sharp debates between colleagues ... often their fruitless or destructive results are just as far from the truth, as far from us the times of Socrates, which attribute this aphorism. What prevents us from getting the truth in an argued dispute?
Sometimes - the elementary reluctance to look for it. We are driven by the desire to insist on their, asserted or devalue the other, and not to find what "is true, truly, fairly" (this defines the truth in its dictionary Vladimir Dal). Example: The student accidentally broke the glass in the bookcase. The teacher is tired, annoyed and does not want to find out the truth: broke - it means to blame, it should be punished.
He does not listen to explanation, does not seek to look at the situation from the point of view of the student, considering his opinion and insists on his. There is no dialogue between them, there is no equality of relationship, there is no desire to detect the truth.
Truth is always the birth of a new one. What was not between these people. For example, understanding and adopting the reality in which they turned out to be arguing with its capabilities and restrictions for everyone. Truth is focused on the future. It opens up the future, allows you to see clearly, wider the field of reality. So more opportunities arise. And when I try to prove to another that he is a fool, I do not open a new sense, do not expand our opportunities. Rather, block them.
Truth is not born in most disputes because we often capture strong emotions - anger, indignation. These emotions sign about the violation of the borders and protect us in a situation where we are negatively evaluated, it hurts it. But these protection do not allow us to hear yourself, the inner voice and interfere with the understanding of the other. How to break a closed circle?
Try to remove and take a pause to see what happens to me. Want to be the way I am now? Do I want to give in to these feelings? Or do I want to be different and understand what's wrong? This pause may look like a weakness, a defeat sign, but in fact it is power and independence, because so we create an opportunity for ourselves to act automatically, but intelligently.
The ability to hear yourself, as well as the ability to speak, without evaluating, and respect for another are the conditions necessary for genuine communication. What is respect? This is when the other is important for me - not as the enemy, followed by I watch, but as an interlocutor, in which I try to find an interesting, good worthy.
These principles of communication described by one of the creators of humanistic psychology Karl Rogers today are successfully implemented in mediation - the method of constructive resolution of disputes and conflicts.
If we can distance themselves from what is hurting, and not to be irritated, if we try to hear yourself and perceive the other as an equal one - and if this other responds, striving for a dialogue, - then it may be born in dispute that new that will be true .
Arguments in the dispute is not the main thing! When opponents end reasonable arguments, they resort to absurd. When absurd, there are insults. But when they were already exhausted and insults, there was something because of which it was necessary to start, - from the Mordoboy. And then it turns out that strong muscles are the most significant argument in any dispute! (Tetcraccus)
Fear not those who argue, but those who shy away from the dispute. (Maria Ebner-Eschenbach)
To be refuted - this is nothing to fear; It follows the other - to be incomprehensible. (I. Kant)
There are no losers in the discussion, but there are no winners in the dispute.
(B. Tyibyekov)
True define words - and you free the world from half of the misunderstanding. (Rene Descartes)
The weighty argument in the dispute can become a weapon and for the opponent. (Marcel Proust)
In any dispute, we protect not our point of view, and our "I". (Paul Valerie)
In the world there is only one way to win a dispute - to avoid it. (D. Carnegie)
Lesse from the dispute - the dispute is the most disadvantageous condition for belief. (Juvenal)
Everything flowshes - here is the best argument in favor of progress. (Gilbert Chesterton)
In the disputes of truth is born, in disputes she dies. (Tetcraccus)
Truth is born in disputes. (Latin Ambassador)
In the dispute often wins the audacity and eloquence, and not the truth. (Menandr)
You can defeat in the dispute, but lose a friend. (John Lebbok)
The main secret of a successful dispute is not to win, but to persuade! (Tetcraccus)
Let's agree to have disagreements. (R. Stevenson)
Gentleman sticks the opponent in the dirt without resorting to direct insults. (Tetcraccus)
Gentlemen do not argue, they exchange opinions; And this is quite enough. (Tetcraccus)
The discussion is possible only between people with the same glances. (Yanina Ipokhorean)
Discussion - means to convince others in their errors. (Ambrosis BIRS)
The discussion is the exchange of knowledge, the dispute is the exchange of ignorance. (Robert Quillen)
Fools always disagree with us. (Tetcraccus)
Fools refute the facts, and not arguments. (I. Flavius)
(But still a pair of knuckled teeth or a broken edge is much more convincing any facts 🙂)
If you want to conquer a man, let him defeat himself in the dispute. (B. Dizraeli)
If you agree with yourself, that is, hope for mutual understanding and with others. (Antonio Miro)
If people argue for a long time, it proves that what they are arguing about, it is unclear for themselves. (Voltaire)
If you can not attack the thought, attack the thinker. (Paul Valerie)
If you can not convince - run off. (Harry Truman)
If the opponent in all with you agrees, it means that your thoughts are not interesting to him. (Tetcraccus)
If you argue with an idiot, try to make sure that he does not make the same. (Ogden Nash)
Forcing a person to silence, you have not previously convinced. (John Morley)
The protracted discussion means that both sides are wrong. (Voltaire)
Of the two disputes, one who is wrong is hot. (Charles Lam)
(Incorrectly hot one who has a weaker nerves)
What are people - such and discussion. (F. Engels)
When you lead a conversation or dispute, lead it as if you played chess. (B. Gracian)
When in a dispute with the opponent, you begin to conscious yourself weaker, stop arguing, for what you will continue to speak will be more stupid and more stupid. (Goethe)
When you do not have serious arguments to objections, do not know anything better. (Charles Colton)
Whoever convinced too diligently, he will not convince anyone. (Chamf)
Who arms with drunk, he fights with missing. (Latin Ambassador)
It is better to disassemble a dispute between your enemies than between friends, for obviously after that one of the friends will become your enemy, and one of the enemies is your friend. (Biant)
People usually quarrel because they do not know how to argue. (Chesterton)
People learn in the dispute and on the road. (Herbert)
Starting a conversation with a detailed presentation of the point of view of your opponent, you still knock the soil from under his feet.
(A. Morua)
Our opponents refute us in their own way: repeat their opinion and do not pay attention to our. (Goethe)
(This is how intrameable debates occur)
Ignorance is not an argument, ignorance is not an argument. (B. Spinosa)
It usually does not contradict those who love most, and those whom the least respect. (Maria Ebner-Eschenbach)
Unreasonable arguing with other people, wise - with themselves. (O. Uald)
Do not argue with a fool: people may not notice between you differences. (E. Katchev)
Do not argue with an idiot, otherwise it will lower you to his level and beat on my field. (The author was not called)
Do not argue with an idiot, otherwise it will lower you to his level and beat on my field. (Mark Twain)
Do not try to say the last word, try to make the last step. (Zhilber Sisbro)
It makes no sense to argue with men: they are never right away. (Sari Gabor)
Never argue with a person who puts your parachute. (The author was not called)
Understanding is the beginning of consent. (B. Spinosa)
The last word in the dispute always remains for the woman. All you say later will be the beginning of a new dispute. (Author not installed)
With every dispute at that moment, when we start to be angry, we stop fighting for the truth and come into the dispute already for themselves. (Thomas Carlel)
The most difficult thing in the dispute is not so much to defend your point of view, how much to have a clear idea about it. (A. Morua)
How many people, so many opinions. (Latin Ambassador)
Spores with amateurs always prefer discussions with professionals. (Tetcraccus)
It is much easier to argue than to understand. (Flaubert)
Many know how to argue, few people can just talk. (AMOS OLCOTT)
Disputes - an extremely vulgar thing. In good society, everyone has exactly the same opinion. (O. Uald)
The dispute is not sex, nothing is born in it. (Tetcraccus)
The dispute is one of the ways of approving opponents in their delusions. (Ambrosis BIRS)
The argument of smart with fools is infertile: the arguments of this friend are not clear to each other. (Tetcraccus)
The debaters remind me of fish, which, hitting the hook, foams around itself, until it becomes invisible. (Joseph Addison)
Disputes wanted the world. (Lat. Ambassador)
Only the fool may insist on what he cannot prove neither to justify or explain nor even to show! (Tetcraccus)
Someone in the dispute is born truth, someone has only broken muzzles. (Tetcraccus)
Smart turns a dispute into a conversation, and a fool turns a conversation into a dispute. (B. Tyibyekov)
The person is quite intelligent, it is possible to convince almost anything, it is much more difficult to convince Tugodum. (Tom Stoppard)
A person is born a reasonable creature and remains so to death, not counting small breaks when he takes a voice in the discussion. ("Pnegwy")
The fragile arguments, the last point of view. (S. LET)
Whose side of the side in the dispute you are neither chosen, the people with whom you wouldn't want to be on anyone will always be. (Yasha Haifets)
Well, the most important aphorisms, they are "winged words", which show opponents that it is useless to argue with us.
"Two opinions can not be!",
"There is no place for discussion!" and of course,
"Bargaining here is not appropriate!"
What are we talking about this statement as well
If you want to win in the dispute,
read to start the article Tetcracca
3. Regarding the dispute, there are many useful statements in the related topics "argument, argument, proof", "Communication, eloquence".
Often on the site there are discussions going into disputes. The management of the dispute is art that should be trained; Few of the writing here owns them.
For this reason, any dispute that flared on the site can be considered destructive in advance, in which the truth is not really born, but it is safe to say that the arguments will turn into swamp enemies.
Let me remind the parable of the three blind sages who decided to know what an elephant is.
The first touched the elephant for a trunk and said that the elephant is like a snake - a long and flexible.
The second touched him behind the leg and is crushing, that it looks like a tree - thick and mighty.
The third took an elephant behind the tail and decided that the elephant is like a rope.
We are all all the blinders, because it is not obviously not fully possessing the full information about the dispute (or we have false information).
None of us can even claim confidently, whether he really exists, or it is his abstract creating creating an Illizia of the existence and his very, and the world around him.
Therefore, it is not bad to remember the following proverbs:
The phrase "in the dispute is born truth" attribute to Socrate.
However, from other sources it is known that Socrates actually found another way to comprehend the truth, rejected the aforementioned thesis and opposed the dispute of the dialogue.
Two thousand years old came to the ground with a truth. The right to this was given to him by his Heavenly.
If someone decided that it was he who had the truth in the last instance, it is appropriate to ask him: did not try on water? Was it? Then I go to you!
As you know, there is only one way to win the top in the dispute is to evade him, and the prevented battle is a won battle. And yet: inferior to the one who is smarter.
And a few more statements about the dispute:
Avoid debaters most often those who do not know how to argue.
To find a common language, it should be bought a little.
The dispute is an intellectual fight, and the benefits of it as much as from any fight.
From two quarrels to blame the one who is smarter (V. Goethe).
Truth is born in the dispute, but sometimes sounds common sense.
Never argue with a fool - people may not notice between you differences.
Reviews
Truth in fault. Consequently, if truth is born in the dispute, the dispute is akin to winemaking.
And if seriously, it has been convinced that the dispute has never proves anything. Once I spent three hours and convinced a person in his wrong. He thanked me warmly, and in a month he wrote a dirty blister on me.
Of course, the dispute can be fascinated by something new for yourself.
But I like more people who know how to listen. Unfortunately, such smarts are a bit.
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